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	<title>Comments on: The Happiness Trap</title>
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		<title>By: Claire Takacs</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeoptimizer.org/2010/06/21/the-happiness-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-209391</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire Takacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The belief that people can&#039;t be happy because they don&#039;t know what they are missing is very subjective based in another&#039;s individual belief on what happiness in a particular situation means to them, or what their values are.  We can&#039;t project our meaning of happiness on to others.  There are also varying levels of happiness.

It seems that happiness is sometimes perceived to be  &#039;one size fits all&#039; &amp; that often it relates to possessions - I&#039;m happy to see the sunrise every day as I walk along the beach.  Now, what does that make you think off?  I bet you&#039;ve created a subjective mental picture of my lifestyle - a perception based on the sort of lifestyle makes, or would make, you happy.

And for what purpose do we need to be happy all the time?  There are so many other emotions that we can experience -yes, some of them are unpleasant, but they are a fact of life and to deny them is denying the richness of life.

Great post for debate Donald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The belief that people can&#8217;t be happy because they don&#8217;t know what they are missing is very subjective based in another&#8217;s individual belief on what happiness in a particular situation means to them, or what their values are.  We can&#8217;t project our meaning of happiness on to others.  There are also varying levels of happiness.</p>
<p>It seems that happiness is sometimes perceived to be  &#8216;one size fits all&#8217; &amp; that often it relates to possessions &#8211; I&#8217;m happy to see the sunrise every day as I walk along the beach.  Now, what does that make you think off?  I bet you&#8217;ve created a subjective mental picture of my lifestyle &#8211; a perception based on the sort of lifestyle makes, or would make, you happy.</p>
<p>And for what purpose do we need to be happy all the time?  There are so many other emotions that we can experience -yes, some of them are unpleasant, but they are a fact of life and to deny them is denying the richness of life.</p>
<p>Great post for debate Donald</p>
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		<title>By: Gayathri Moosad at Self Improvement Centre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayathri Moosad at Self Improvement Centre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I have found this article quite thought-inspiring. I think it also applies to relationships - if we, say, read about a &quot;happily ever after&quot; romantic novel with impossibly high standards of compatibility, we may never feel truly happy in a relationship that is realistically quite good. We can often become trapped without really experiencing it - we can become trapped by just believing there should be more to it. 

To avoid this kind of dissatisfaction, education could perhaps prove most helpful. Setting realistic goals should be of importance here. Always comparing ourselves and others to impossible standards is merely setting us up for failure.

Great post, very rich and inspiring.

Cheers,
Gayathri Moosad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have found this article quite thought-inspiring. I think it also applies to relationships &#8211; if we, say, read about a &#8220;happily ever after&#8221; romantic novel with impossibly high standards of compatibility, we may never feel truly happy in a relationship that is realistically quite good. We can often become trapped without really experiencing it &#8211; we can become trapped by just believing there should be more to it. </p>
<p>To avoid this kind of dissatisfaction, education could perhaps prove most helpful. Setting realistic goals should be of importance here. Always comparing ourselves and others to impossible standards is merely setting us up for failure.</p>
<p>Great post, very rich and inspiring.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Gayathri Moosad</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Latumahina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Latumahina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 01:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,
Perhaps some examples would make the idea clearer, but I don&#039;t have the room for them here. If you could get the book, they are on page 54-57. Of course, you may disagree with the author.

Roman,
You&#039;re welcome. I myself realize it only recently after reading Stumbling on Happiness.

Jim,
&lt;blockquote&gt;Would you, if you had another chance, forego the internet? How about if and when you have your first child, are you going to run away from that too?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Of course not. The statement applies &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; to things that are &lt;em&gt;harmful in the long term&lt;/em&gt;. That&#039;s the context of the trap I&#039;m talking about. One example is smoking. You know that it&#039;s harmful in the long term, so you should avoid it. Some people, despite knowing that smoking is harmful in the long-term, still try it and eventually become addicted.

Sibyl,
The book says that your experience automatically changes your perception of happiness, often without you being aware of it. But that&#039;s an interesting point you bring up. 

Abubakar,
Thanks!

Jehangir,
Is it? I haven&#039;t watched the video. Looks like I should watch it :)

Susan,
Yes, contentment is essential for happiness.

Dawn,
&lt;blockquote&gt;If an individual knows what his underlying values are, it will allow him to focus on what’s important to him in the long run.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree with you.

Daiva,
Thanks :)

Percival,
Interesting point. I agree that we can think otherwise, but it seeems that an experience with big short-term incentive will make it very difficult for most people to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,<br />
Perhaps some examples would make the idea clearer, but I don&#8217;t have the room for them here. If you could get the book, they are on page 54-57. Of course, you may disagree with the author.</p>
<p>Roman,<br />
You&#8217;re welcome. I myself realize it only recently after reading Stumbling on Happiness.</p>
<p>Jim,</p>
<blockquote><p>Would you, if you had another chance, forego the internet? How about if and when you have your first child, are you going to run away from that too?</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course not. The statement applies <em>only</em> to things that are <em>harmful in the long term</em>. That&#8217;s the context of the trap I&#8217;m talking about. One example is smoking. You know that it&#8217;s harmful in the long term, so you should avoid it. Some people, despite knowing that smoking is harmful in the long-term, still try it and eventually become addicted.</p>
<p>Sibyl,<br />
The book says that your experience automatically changes your perception of happiness, often without you being aware of it. But that&#8217;s an interesting point you bring up. </p>
<p>Abubakar,<br />
Thanks!</p>
<p>Jehangir,<br />
Is it? I haven&#8217;t watched the video. Looks like I should watch it :)</p>
<p>Susan,<br />
Yes, contentment is essential for happiness.</p>
<p>Dawn,</p>
<blockquote><p>If an individual knows what his underlying values are, it will allow him to focus on what’s important to him in the long run.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with you.</p>
<p>Daiva,<br />
Thanks :)</p>
<p>Percival,<br />
Interesting point. I agree that we can think otherwise, but it seeems that an experience with big short-term incentive will make it very difficult for most people to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Percival J. Meris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Percival J. Meris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I have not fully mastered the principle, I still would like to believe that happiness is an issue of self-mastery.  In other words, mastery of our thoughts,  Everything begins with thought.

If some experiences change our view of happiness, it is because we come to accept that that is our new standard of happiness.  We THINK that is how we should be happy.  But we can think otherwise.  It is our choice.

People should train themselves in the mastery of thought and in the practice of self-denial.  If we accept the view that some experiences would change our view of happiness, then we relinquish control of our happiness to external circumstances.

Habits are difficult to change because they are ingrained in our nervous system.  The condition of the body has a part in this difficulty.  For an ordinary person, this is a herculean job.  But one who has complete self-mastery will see this as no obstacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I have not fully mastered the principle, I still would like to believe that happiness is an issue of self-mastery.  In other words, mastery of our thoughts,  Everything begins with thought.</p>
<p>If some experiences change our view of happiness, it is because we come to accept that that is our new standard of happiness.  We THINK that is how we should be happy.  But we can think otherwise.  It is our choice.</p>
<p>People should train themselves in the mastery of thought and in the practice of self-denial.  If we accept the view that some experiences would change our view of happiness, then we relinquish control of our happiness to external circumstances.</p>
<p>Habits are difficult to change because they are ingrained in our nervous system.  The condition of the body has a part in this difficulty.  For an ordinary person, this is a herculean job.  But one who has complete self-mastery will see this as no obstacle.</p>
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		<title>By: Daiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed it&#039;s one of the best your articles. So true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it&#8217;s one of the best your articles. So true!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Henessy</title>
		<link>http://www.lifeoptimizer.org/2010/06/21/the-happiness-trap/comment-page-1/#comment-207496</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Henessy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 01:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful insight! I love what you said about not distorting one&#039;s image of happiness.  I think it all boils down to understanding what the person&#039;s underlying values are.  What are the experiences that he wants to get out of something? This would help him focus on the long-term effects of his actions. If an individual knows what his underlying values are, it will allow him to focus on what&#039;s important to him in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful insight! I love what you said about not distorting one&#8217;s image of happiness.  I think it all boils down to understanding what the person&#8217;s underlying values are.  What are the experiences that he wants to get out of something? This would help him focus on the long-term effects of his actions. If an individual knows what his underlying values are, it will allow him to focus on what&#8217;s important to him in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Liddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Liddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that in our pursuits for happiness, we actually make life harder and more complicated than it needs to be. We think that we need all this STUFF to make us happy, yet all that really does is make life more challenging.

I love to go to the riding stables and visit with the horses in the pasture. They are so content to simply be outside, frolick with one another, taking an occasional role in the sand and resting peacefully as needed. It&#039;s mesmerizing and easily reminds me that all I need to do is simply &quot;be&quot; to ENJOY this amazing experience of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that in our pursuits for happiness, we actually make life harder and more complicated than it needs to be. We think that we need all this STUFF to make us happy, yet all that really does is make life more challenging.</p>
<p>I love to go to the riding stables and visit with the horses in the pasture. They are so content to simply be outside, frolick with one another, taking an occasional role in the sand and resting peacefully as needed. It&#8217;s mesmerizing and easily reminds me that all I need to do is simply &#8220;be&#8221; to ENJOY this amazing experience of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Jehangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jehangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Donald,

A nice article, which made me smile, since I posted a blog yesterday which includes a TED video of Dan Gilbert!

Although the video was made in 2004, 3 years before &lt;em&gt;Stumbling on Happiness&lt;/em&gt; was published, there are aspects of it that complement your post and mentions some additional dangers... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Donald,</p>
<p>A nice article, which made me smile, since I posted a blog yesterday which includes a TED video of Dan Gilbert!</p>
<p>Although the video was made in 2004, 3 years before <em>Stumbling on Happiness</em> was published, there are aspects of it that complement your post and mentions some additional dangers&#8230; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Abubakar Jamil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abubakar Jamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This an insightful article for sure and you touched the heart of the subject of happiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This an insightful article for sure and you touched the heart of the subject of happiness.</p>
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		<title>By: Sibyl - alternaview</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sibyl - alternaview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donald: Very interesting point and so true.  We really can change our perception on events and ultimately impact our happiness.  I think we just have to realize that is the case and then continually chose to do so.  Once we become accustomed to perceiving things from the best perspective, we get better and better at it and ultimately our happiness increases.  Thanks for sharing your insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donald: Very interesting point and so true.  We really can change our perception on events and ultimately impact our happiness.  I think we just have to realize that is the case and then continually chose to do so.  Once we become accustomed to perceiving things from the best perspective, we get better and better at it and ultimately our happiness increases.  Thanks for sharing your insights.</p>
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